KARL MARX WAS A LOSER WHO NEVER WORKED
75KARL MARX WAS A LOSER
WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU CALL A MAN WHO DIDN'T SUPPORT HIS FAMILY?
His wife bore 7 children. Only 3 of those children lived to be adults. The other 4 died young from the effects of living in poverty.
Karl Marx was a 'thinker'. He sat in a chair and thought about what it must be like to be a working man.
Rather than experiencing the world as it was, Marx thought about how he wished it would be.
Though he had never worked, Marx concluded that a working man was selling his soul to his boss.
In particular, Marx thought about the new process of making cotton thread by machine, in a factory. What he concluded is that the owners of the factories became wealthy while the workers made wages barely enough to live on. He did not consider that men were leaving the farms to work in the factories because the pay was steady and there was one day off a week, much better conditions than on the farm.
Marx decided the workers should own the factories. He wrote loftily of the toil of the workers, without seeming to have any understanding of investment in order to construct the factory. Nor did he bother his mind to consider all that goes into managing a factory. He just saw men working and found it so repulsive he decided they should at the least own the factory so as to save their souls.
The fact that Marx never worked in itself makes his 'thinking' suspect, but much worse is how Marx provided for his family.
For most of his adult life, and in particular while his children were young, Karl Marx's main source of income came from his friend, Engels, who periodically sent money to support the family.
Engels, in turn, received his money from - cotton mills! His family were owners of a mill in Manchester, England. Engels himself lived off the workers, and the money he sent to his friend Karl Marx was from the profits of the factory.
Karl Marx lived off the toil of factory workers while bemoaning their fate and 'thinking' of how it ought to be.
Karl Marx was a parasite. What sort of man can watch his children go hungry and bury four of them but refuse to work in order to provide for them? The money he received from Engels was never enough to raise the Marx family out of poverty. Certainly their circumstances were worse than those of the factory workers. And Marx was an educated man. He certainly could have found work had he wanted to.
Marx's philosophy of a worker selling his soul seems to be his own excuse for his negligence toward his wife and children.
Did he think it was better for his children to die than for him to get a job and provide for them?
What's astonishing is that a loser such as Karl Marx is taken seriously, his philosophy touted as the working man's utopia.
Of course, wherever Marxism has been instituted, be it in Cuba, in North Korea, in China, in Russia, the workers have never found themselves better off. In fact, Marxism brings with it famine, starvation, and death.
Marx had no experience in the world, no experience working. His experience seems confined to sitting in a chair 'thinking'. And as he thought he contrived a theory which was no more than his own excuse for not working.
Those people who espouse Marxism as the way the world ought to be are no better than Marx himself. Chances are they too are parasites. They're certainly not people who truly care about others. They just want to do like Marx, live off someone else's toil.
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I wonder what country you're from. Do you know how many people died under the Marxist regimes of the Soviet Union and China?
Obviously written by a moron
"I wonder what country you're from. Do you know how many people died under the Marxist regimes of the Soviet Union and China?"
No where, in the entire world, has true communism been accomplished. The sad truth is it will most likely never be accomplished at any rate. However, what you say above is ignorant.
The Soviet Union and Communist China are not true communist states, they are hardly even socialist states. Both are dictatorships hidden under the name of Communism. Communism is not a form of government, socialism is a form of government, communism itself is an ideology which all members of society must recognize if it will ever be achieved.
The socialist state is the transition between capitalism and communism, it is called 'the dictatorship of the proletariat' in which a temporary government is put into place to protect the communist revolution and make sure the bourgeois and previous officials do not overthrow the state. Once communism has been officially reached there is no government, no classes, no one is above anyone. Everyone owns everything. People work within society for the good of humanity, not for selfish gain, the work you do will give others the things they need and in return you will get the things you need from them.
The 'Marxist' regimes throughout Europe and Asia are not what Karl Marx envisioned Communism to be turned into. Why don't you go read up on Marx's life, the Communist Manifesto, and a bit of Eric Fromm's writing on Marx.
"Close to Karl Marx's death, he stated very plainly, that he was not a Marxist. Karl Marx is rolling in his grave at the idea of Communism. His form of belief dictated that society is lead by conflict, and eventually we, as a society, will reach a point in our lives where there is no conflict and then this idea of everybody being equal, this idea of "Communism" will naturally instill it's self into our society. There will be no war fought, no revolutionary group overthrowing the government in favor of this new form--this idea of communism will be a natural result." (taken from http://www.progressiveu.org/143732-marxs-last-word
Get your facts straight and indulged yourself in a basic understanding of something before you make yourself look like an idiot.
I wonder why people so in love with Socialism don't pack up their crap and move to a Socialist country. I wonder how many of them are on unemployment or welfare or in some way live of of money earned by people that work and pay taxes. 'If' they work I wonder if they wouldn't mind just dumping all of their earnings into a big community pot, and have someone else decide how much everyone is alloted, wether they put any effort or productivity into their labor or not. All you half-wit dolts, show me one country that is a shinning example of socialism who's poulace wouldn't give all they had to move here. Show me ANY country that has helped out these 'wonderful socialist states' in time of need more than the U.S. . This is out country and we like it the way it is, flaws and all. At least here you can try to fix things without getting hauled off in the middle of the night. Sorry........ I realize I'm ranting, but seriously, WHAT good has EVER come Socialism, Communism, Facisim all that mindless 'group think' crap?
Robert - I agree with you. It's only losers looking for a handout who like the idea of Marxism or Communism.
Marx appears to be a believer in the "Lucy" (Charles Schulz) theory: "I love mankind, it's people I can't stand." He loved the workers, but never joined them in toil, he loved his family, but would not sacrifice to feed them. In general, the man was a drinker, a self-important elitist, and a lout. His philosophy to "help" mankind has created more suffering than Capitalism-- at its worse-- could not do. To create a "classless" society, you only need freedom and the ability to keep the rewards of your effort. The world of upper and lower caste system, can be ended by the effort of individuals to improve, not the heavy yoke of a state-enforced mediocrity.
Marx was a nobody with idiotic ideas that were picked up by the powers-that-be to advance their agenda. Anybody who thinks communism, or socialism for that matter is a good idea has not taken into account human nature.
Of course we've never seen "real" communism. And we never will. The philosophy is basically flawed because of it's pie in the sky ideals of how people actually think and act.
Another excellent hub sheila :)
Well said - get off the couch and get a job!
The truth is that statism, socialism, commumism, feminism, anarchism is a welfare stystem occupied by Marxist parasites who think on their toilette bowls, which they are to lazy to have invented it.
The author of this article has his information on the ball. Even Marx's mother told him: "Son, instead of writing about money, go out there and make some!". His father thought he was “possessed by a demon” (Padover 22). Karl Marx reminds me of a hippy who raids the food of a workman's fridge and blames him for not sharing the wealth. If it wasn't for capitalism, which Engels was part of, Marx and his disciples would be eating worms!
All social-oriented political philosophies, from Stalin to Hitler, are responsible for two World Wars that killed millions of people in the name of tribal collectivism and is what is destroying the US right now.
If it wasn't for capitalism, your standard of living would be like those in the Middle Ages! Statism and social goverments produce nothing, it is the industralist and businessman that do - your modern Engels. Only capitalism declares that each and every man, may live his own life for his own happiness, as an end to himself, not by permission of others, but by right, and that government's sole responsibility is to protect those rights, and never violate them, because they are inalienable. Boo to all tribal mentality and tell the hippy to get or make his own job and his own fridge! Marx is a big loser!
Money is not the root of all evil, Marxism is!
If Marx took care of society like he did his children...Mmmm, we would be screwed, big time. That in itself, speaks volumes!!!!!!!!!
No big surprise here!! Excellent hub!
Actions speak louder than words...
Marxism is contrary to the word and will of God. If you read the Bible, you'll see that God rewards hard work and punishes laziness. In the book of Proverbs, it says that the hand of the diligent shall prosper, but the sluggard will come to naught. In the parable of the talents, the faithful servants are rewarded for their hard work while the slothful servant is cast out. It also says if a man does not work, he shall not eat. Today we live in a communist country, where sloth is rewarded and diligence is punished, also known as the welfare state. You cannot violate God's laws forever, sooner or later our entire economy will crash and burn. It's just a matter of time. Instead of being the land of the free and the home of the brave, we have become the land of the flea and the home of the slave. God help us!
A great article. Well researched, written, and open minded. As an American Vietnam veteran I have seen psuedo-marxism and Psuedo-Communism in the world but have never seen any politic system in praqctice that didnt have a elite class at the top pulling the strings. I am tired of uneducated people trashing fee thinking like some of the idiots who posted here. The nice thing about the US of A is that if we do not like it, we are free to try to change it. Idiots say love it or leave it. These are the ones who never did anything for their country but bitch. Love or change it is the most appropriate. Again, great open minded thinking. Way to go.
That part about Marx receiving income from factories by auxiliary through Engels is interesting, do you have a source for that?
Anyways Marx certainly did work. He wrote prolifically on many subjects. He was learned in all the political economy of his day. His Capital stretches over thousands of pages. In terms of intellectual work at least (I don't know if you consider that work) he was one of the harder workers.
PS: I'm not a Marxist.
Thanks for this post - its been a wonderful reminder of how stupid the majority of americans are.
Good Day sheila b.
You're right, the comments aren't very nice on balance. Quite a nasty sectarian debate going on there! One is tempted to say, "Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?!"
I'm not going to contribute to it. Neither do I intend to take issue with your interpretation. I just stopped by to say: your argument is passionate, forceful, polemical, and I do think, somewhat ideologically biased, -- which is fine -- your article presents a fascinating psychoanalytic interpretation of the man, Marx, and the origins of Marxism.
I will not even take issue, one way or another, with your view on this. But the methodology you use, your narrative technique is impressive and an important reminder that the philosophies of great men and women of the past, some of whom we come to almost deify, contain an important element of the personality (all the strengths and weaknesses, triumphs and failures and follies)and life experiences of these people as individuals.
I just wanted to say that I appreciate good writing and good technique.
Well done, sheila b.
Marxism, Socialism (in all its sticky-fingered guises...) is for losers.
Winners start businesses, thereby creating money for themselves and jobs/investment opportunities for others.
Winners work hard, are dependent on themselves...
Winners stay with and support their families.
Winners contribute; they are economically productive.
Losers are lazy.
Losers are unashamed to live off others' money -- money not freely given.
Losers -- the worst of them -- believe that they DESERVE others' money and that those with money are WRONG for having it. Their credo seems to be "What's yours is mine."
Socialism serves losers.
Capitalism serves winners.
Capitalism rewards hard work, intelligence, and (the resulting) success
Socialism punishes said success and rewards sloth and failure.
The sooner we defeat this defeatist Socialist disease, the better off we'll be.
Humbly yours,
"Pudge Heffelfinger"
Can't beleive some of these comments. Communisum....Socialism....Marxism are all the same.... no FREEDOM! It is like a herd of cattle waiting for someone to feed you....or kill you! Obamacare!
You know I never knew much about Marx, but last week I was talking to someone about a lot of these 'generic' political thinkers and "intellectuals" who sit in their rooms, away from normal people, fertilising their own thoughts and influencing generations of politicians. I quipped that Marx, for instance, probably never worked a day in his life and probably spent all his time sitting at home, a social misfit thinking about socxial engineering. I was surprised to see how accurate I was. If anything he was even worse than I thought. Thanks for posting this.
Sheila, you're confusing the historical person Marx with Marx' analyses that may well denounce himself as an exploiter. Cui bono? If I found out that you've behaved immorally before, what would that say about your article?
Physics theories were used to build the nuclear bomb. Does this prove the theories morally wrong? -- From bombs to shoes... There is a famous saying by the German sociologist Max Weber (or is it by someone else? who cares?): "You don't have to be a shoemaker to know that a shoe doesn't fit." If Marx had worked as those laborers of the proletariat which he analysed, only one thing is sure: he would never have written The Capital.
If it's your actual wish that it should not have been written, why don't you just say that instead of digging up trash from Marx' biography?
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I agree with the majority of what you have said,Engels did help Marx to give up work. Although i do not think your comments are academically helpfull i do agree with most of them.
@xwriter: It is highly unfair to group together feminism with those other philosophies. Feminism is a very diverse set of executions that covers the entire political spectrum from libertarian/frontier feminism, which sees less government intervention and a more independent people as the way to greater empowerment for women, to anarchist feminism and socialist feminism.
Also, to be fair, anarchy DID work in Somalia. The lot of the people has improved since their government went away. Would it "work" in America? Probably not. We don't have Africas problems to anywhere near the degree to need Anarchy, but Anarchy may be a good solution for Africa, where the corruption is so rife that it stagnates everything and government itself is little more then a source of criminal activity.
True communism has never been accomplished. Ha! Gee, I've never heard that before. It's been accomplished plenty of times, and when it is, that's precisely when the massacres and all the evils that accompany central planning happen. It was accomplished for example in India without violence, yet, it turned a country that was economically prosperous for two hundred years into a disaster of famine and mass poverty. Communists are the dumbest people on earth. No single person is capable of planning for two or three households successfully, what makes anyone think an entire market can be planned centrally? Marx was most certainly a hypocrite and a parasite, it's a FACT. Great article, brilliantly honest, I applaud the author for having the audacity to speak directly about one of the greatest disasters of mankind.
Thinkright ~ Money is not the root of all evil, the Bible says the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. And we have much evidence of that today in our society, a country spoiled with riches who covet more and more but don't want to work for it. The entitled attitude that others owe them an education, a house that they demand never be foreclosed on when they don't pay the rent. What idiotic parents/government taught the kids to think like this and where in the world do they think the money comes from to pay for all this? Someone needs to educate Americans that anything they get for "free" is coming from someone else and they are a leach on society, a parasite that is destroying this wonderful country and the foundation built by our Forefathers !! Whatever happened to working for what you want or need, never taking a handout from others and taking pride in your accomplishments? Part of the problem is the school system that doesn't want to fail a student because it will hurt their self esteem so the child doesn't have to work or invest in anything to get ahead. Then they go out in the world, unprepared to handle failure and have no character to bull themselves up by their boot straps and digging in to succeed. The dumbing down of America starts first in the home by over indulgent parents and then the schools take over and continue the sick, weak thinking so more and more become slaves to the government. WAKE UP AMERICA !! Socialism has never worked in any other country so get off your lazy butts, get a job and take pride in this wonderful country that draws people from other countries because of it's greatness !!
By this logic, isn't the true hypocrite someone like Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Friedrich von Hayek or John Maynard Keynes, who, as you put it, spent all their time on their ass 'thinking' instead of working in the capitalist economy they all loved so much?
My fellow Americans here we are at the mercy of an absolute true Marxist in every since of the word, our current President. He has brought this country to it's knees through the detriment of our economy. I believe he has achieved what he set out to do all along. You liberals should feel ashamed of yourselves for not doing your homework before voting.
First of all, Marx was bisexual which effects gender responsibilities. His work could not have supported him or his family because it was hundreds of years ahead of its time. Certainly, he made some vital mistakes which were compensated by Left-Communism and Anarchist-Communism but his critique of Capitalist fascism is dead-on.
Sheila B. you are obscenely ignorant. Karl Marx's "job" was that of a scholar, of the highest caliber I might add. Don't think for a second that this is not work, or that thinkers did not once physically labor. He is also often misunderstood, and you are perpetuating that unfortunate habit in your indignant article (so Marx is a 'loser'. I suppose you are a winner?). I am a social scientist by the way, and I know anti-intellectualism when I see it, and you are it.
I also want to point out the irony of your attack; that if you had your way and Marx put down the books and picked up a trowel or worked in a factory, that would actually be closer to the communist hells that have existed historically. You simply deride 'thinkers' for being just that. You don't understand, let alone appreciate, the division of labor, and the contribution of ideas to progress.
The word 'socialism' (like capitalism, communism, liberalism, etc..) is a complicated term, with varying meanings. Very few people dispute this; even ignorant people such as yourself who use such words can respect they are vulnerable to critique. And totalitarianism is far more complex than being able to be reduced to certain ideological programs and figures. You don't really address these things much anyways, as your blog is simply a polemic against a man.
And for the record, there are some successful socialist countries, in Scandinavia, and to an extent Western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, etc...
Your tirade against him is merely an expression of some deep-seated bias, and a need to look for a scape goat. This type of thinking can always find even dumber people to follow it, thereby making you think you're right.
So fuck you, and fuck anybody who ever wants to take down an intellectual. You are the ones condemning Socrates to death.
Dear Brent
Does your definition of an intellectual include the need to use of profanity because they can not find an intelligent way of expressing them selves?
Critical eclectic thought alludes the linear thinker that is deluded into thinking that he or she knows something because they have read it. I have studied the political left and indeed I used to be one of them. Then I woke up to the hypocrisy and saw through all their high ideals. One thing I realized about the Marxist left is that they have a weak foundation of intelligence and are prone to reacting rather than responding with viable solutions to problem that they them selves would actually have to do some WORK on.
So you leftist like Brent and those that reject the label that still are lazy elitist, the Fabians etc. as you may deny God the creature in favor of your god the government and the authoritarian process. Know this, your are being betrayed. All that your are rejecting that is good in this US of A and taking for granted will be lost if you don’t wake up as well.
Break the bonds of peer pressure and linear thought, see past the vale of socialist lies and propaganda. Get beyond the immediate desire to react and think as an individual for your self for a change. Collectivism is not the way to deal with your fears. Take personal responsibility and quit wining like Karl Marx. Don’t be afraid to get your hands dirty, if your friends laugh at you for acutely doing some work ignore them. You will survive the pain of rejection because you are actually becoming part of the solution. Your peer group has been manipulated by peer pressure from your teachers. Gain something that Karl Marx never did, a spine to stand erect with.
well ur wrong on china and russia - china is capitalist as no other, russia was marxist-leninist and then stalinist, north korea has its owen juche ideology developed by kim il sung. other than that i agree that marx was a complete fool
“Humanism is the denial of God and the total affirmation of man. Humanism is really nothing else but Marxism.” (The Jew, Karl Marx, Economic Politigue et Philsophie)
"Some call it Marxism, I call it Judaism." - Rabbi Stephen Wise, (Judaism is nothing but disguised, camouflaged Communism) !!!
"The Communists are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essentially nothing else than a religion (Judaism)." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 138).
"The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the (1917) Jewish Bolshevik Russian Revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144)
"The Jew is an inborn communist" ! Otto Weininger, a Jew, Sex & Character, page 311 !
Jewish Bolsheviks Murdered 66 Million In Russia
You're born into a world where you have to pay rent in order to live. You are forced to work just because some people already own land and you don't so you need to rent it from them to live.
In what way is that freedom? Freedom for me is the ability to do whatever you want, not the freedom to have to work a full-time job in order to survive. That's what Marx actually taught, what actual freedom is.
What Marx taught and what Marxism became later are two different things. Think about it.
Bill, you're totally free. Plenty of open land up in the mountains and desert. Go walk out there and live off the land. Go ahead, see how long you last. Bet you'd be crying your first night alone, screaming about no water, A/C or food at the store.
Pour Bill
The whole Marxist evolution has provided you an option via the UN Agenda 21. As in Nazi Germany the FEMA camps will provide crematoriums to mass reduction of population. Research other Globalist Like Bush Eugenics for more info.
Tom I am afraid the ability to just go out in the forest and live off the wild in the national forest is a crime.
I have known people that have tried this and it only works for a short time. USFS track down anyone that tries to do this.
Sorry Bill this is not an option. You may want to see if you can get some testosterone med. to get you past you sorry state. Another way of looking at is
Life is tough " Deal with it"
Volunteer, to do for others you may find your place in the world. Another aspect of the entire Marxist view that you apparently are not aware of yet is that of Transcendentalism, in simple terms " Survival of the fittest" No place to hide within Marxism. What you can look forward to however in a Marxist state is a
Totalitarian hell. Read 1984 for a clue. Looking at the big picture I can only suggest that you learn to prey to God in Jesus name and commune with him while you take action.
hess not a good guy
Bill Replace Transcendentalism with Existentialism
Looking at the history of the contamination of our society by Marxism through Harvard to Woodrow Wilson, Progressives democrats / Federal income tax / to Obama's March 16th, 2012 EO Section 201(b) making us all in the USA slaves, things tend to get interchangeable.
Marks tended to bluer these two things as well.
Marx was a loser and yet people have the time to write about him. Doesn't that sound paradoxical? Secondly, the judges that sit in their chairs decide on the cases. They've themselves not been robbed or raped. How could they do it unless they've been through the same pain/agony? We need to do something about it. If one a good baseball player does not make him a good lover and just because one is not a good lover does not mean that he can't be a good baseball player. Please try to read at least half of what X says before you start writing about X (whosoever that X be). Unless you do that, you are merely indulging in religious warfare. That's nice but the title of the thread should spell that out. Why can't a boozer think? Just because it's a teetotaller's thread? It sounds like a man's claim that women are dumb, WHY?
Praveen Singh your comment is Convoluted.
Marx was a satanist. the harsh truth is that he was a rationalizing hypocrite. He was evil and too lazy to even care for his family. Your comment about women being dumb is as lame as the Barry Soetoro aka Obama using the Marxist tactic of blaming anyone else for your evil deeds, in this case, the republicans attacking women.
Marx is not worth spit, what an issue is how many academics, globalist, socialist, and union leaders reflect his short sighted linear views. How this evil influence is effecting our daily lives.
The bottom line is that there will never ever exist a society that doesn't have a bourgeoisie. A society is made up of free individuals, but Karl Marx decided to demonize the individuals who have succeeded and worked hard, and he radically simplified society into only two classes - "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat." By doing that, he created a "us" against "them" mentality that created the messes we have today.
Even if there were a society that abolished the bourgeoisie, would a government exist? Having a "government" per se is acknowledging that someone has more power than you do. Therefore, under communism, there can only exist total authoritarian government or anarchy, both extremely dangerous. This is why a limited constitutional republic, like the United States was before Communist influences, is the ideal and the most free political system.
Norm you are right on.
The “us and them” dichotomous thought is part of the authoritarian educational system.
It also makes it easier to sway the Bourgeoisie and Proletariat via propaganda.
It is an inevitability when working with systems that control from the top down.
If we are to have a successful republic we need to reset and make sure that this process is cut off at the knees. Meaning school staff and government bureaucracy are strictly non-union . You may want to research Woodrow T. Wilson and Ralph Waldo Emerson in regard to the history of propaganda if you have not as yet. Another great book I am sure you will enjoy is
“ They Sky’s the Limit” by Dr. Wayne Dyer.
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The opposite of this article is true. Read e.g. Erich Fromm what he wrotes about Marx Image of man. How he loved his wife and man kind. Read Capter 23 of Volume 1 of the capital to see why and how the first factory "workers" really went into the factories!! Its written better like any crime story ! Just read his books to see how much he has worked.
His theory has infuenced (with Eastern Europe and China) over the half of mankind and with strong enthusiasm till the deathly wars of the US- and capitalist sponsored NAZIs. And Marx was right to say Socialism is for developped capitalists countries - not underdevelopped like Russia and China.
I see again and again - anything you and your people in your "world" know, is completely manipulated to the opposite. Sorry I have no time to say more and think it will not be accepeted. Pieces of truth die in a field of dirty lies. Its strange to read such an article. In my country it would be impossible to concentrate so much of dump lies in one single article.